

Well, obligations have prevented me from getting a preview up for this one. These midweek games do me in, sometimes.
Anyway, as the previous, and excellent, thread has thrashed everything out nicely, I think we all know what’s at stake tonight, what we’re looking at, and what we’re expecting. Which might not be what we’re hoping for. We’ll see.
Me, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see some version of a 4-5-1. And if Gabby is playing, I’d rather see him come on late if things need changing up, rather than start at the exclusion of Hogan. But perhaps Bruce will persist with the 4-3-3/4-4-2 of the last two matches.
So, fresh sheet of paper. Let’s hope the boys start climbing out of the still smallish hole we’ve dug for ourselves in the first two games.
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johnstone
de laet terry chester taylor
whealan hourinahane onumah thor
green hogan
Subs: Steer, Samba, Lansbury, Agbonlahor, Bree, Hutton, Adomah
probably best team we could start,but definitly bench could done without hutton and gabby keeping 2 youngsters out
Hey there!
Thumps up also here in Finland. I truly hope that Bruce and whole team get it right tonight!
0-2!!
James ,
Agree , except for the omission of Adomah . I would start with Adomah over Whelan , we need to create first , whelan is only a comfort blanket.
Interesting on De Laet…Fair number of changes.
Hi, Finland.
Hope you’re right!
Prox,
Am assuming Whelan will be deep behind Onomah or Hourihane (not sure who’ll actually end up more central). May not serve as much more than a comfort blanket, might be the only one capable of providing any cover for the back four.
Prox- an old moth-eaten full of holes wet Blanket
Mark,
He’s got to have a better game. I was worried he was past it, he’d obviously slipped down the pecking order at Stoke. Dunno why that makes him adequate for the Championship.
JC- no if anything its more frantic and physical
John ,
That’s our problem . Fear. the back 4 should’nt need any more protection , we need to make the opposition worry about our attack not the other way round. Will never happen under Bruce , he’s broken .
mark ,
Just a little bag of sunshine , aintchya!
wolves 1-0 up
prox- used to be
prox- Our defence doesn’t need protection just a warm fire and a cup of Horlicks and their knitting.
I dunno Mark , we’ve just moved up one place to twentieth with 12 % possession in the first 10 minutes without doing a f**k**g thing . ..maybe the lads could work from home and skype into matches on a Saturday afternoon.
Make that 19th place . How easy is this league ? We’ll definitely go up .
Prox 🙂 the only way is up, literally.
Luckily neither of these ex-centre-half’s know how to attack……zzzzzz
Hogan off “Legend” on 1 shot in 30 mins,I give up,I’ll catch the score tomorrow.
bloody hell even Ipswich and McCarthy have score 3
Brasil 0-0 😉
Bet DR Xia is hiding behind his pillows watching this, players are feigning injury to avoid the shame now 🙂
Reading v Aston Villa Half time.
Possession
Home 77% Away 23%
Shots
Home 8 Away 1
Shots on Target
Home3 Away 1
Corners
Home 3 Away 0
I can smell it here and that’s over 5,000 miles
Hi Proxopera. How’ve you been?
prox were 18th cakewalk
Damn this league is hard back to 19th
prox
seen whelan for ireland too many times,awful playersits so deep un real its different for ireland we usually are underdog defend hit with long pace
Hi Ian,
I’m very good mate , and you !! Hope the bears ain’t keeping you awake.
I would have thought that the tactic tonight was pretty obvious! Simply don’t get beat and try to snatch a win if poss.
On Saturday, though, Villa will have to turn up to play … unless they want mud thrown at ’em.
Please sack Steve Bruce now. This is an utter disgrace. He is running scared already . Playing for a draw Reading.
How humiliating
We need a progressive manager with a vision
Ah thats better 1-0 down 2nd from bottom
prox
whelan first goal since 2011 pity its in wrong end bruce out 8months to late
No bears yet.
An own goal, well at least they’re sticking to the plan of being shite
BRUCE OUT
I like Whelan , James , in that he’s an honest player and gives it his all , he just does’nt have much to give .He reminds me of me when I played only obviously at a much higher level.
The signing of Whelan just reeks of fear .
thats better a proper goal 2-0
Doesn’t mcLeish and Lambert look good now
Oh, dear … this is not in the script.
Gosh , would’nt it be hilarious if bacuna came on and scored !
weird how things work, Bruce comes to reading and gets our first away win in yonks and with RDM’s team. Buys 12 players and drills them over endless games to come back and get stuffed, definitely needs more time.
Don’t worry lads, we can still make the playoffs.
Richards- have they extended them to the whole league?
prox
fear thats bruce motto
jesus that so called defending is shocking, 2 pl winners 2 welsh internationals shocking
Our goal difference is ok we are only one goal behind Cardiff oh hang on theres a minus in front of ours -5 my mistake.
Bruce is gone after Saturday and it starts all over again
Selling Bacuna was mistake , we have’nt scored once since he left.
prox- doesn’t wheelans count ?
You’re just being facetious now Mark . Did i spell that right ?
Thats it….no way back now, he set up to get a draw and its gone pear shaped.
I was on his side and supported him but I’m afraid its all over now for Steve Bruce. I hate to see anyone lose their job but even I have to admit its all done…….NEXT!!
Prox- don’t know don’t care
Archie! … You’re not supposed to say that … I thought you were an opti! 😉
I have to admit that I do not see how Bruce can now get out of this mess. Particularly if they lose against fellow stragglers Norwich.
The humour and knives come out!
Norwich have promised to play the players missus. A draw is guaranteed
Sponge Bob & Skippy the bush kangaroo would do no worse coaching this motley crew. To be honest, many of us wouldn’t be surprised at this folly.
Soo…. who do we fancy as the next boss ?
I think Bruce will sabotage the bus again
Iana two solid shouts there I’ll throw in Bill and Ben the flower pot men and weed as assistant
Rowan atkinson
Evening all
Utter crap – Xia should get rid of Bruce & get a young dynamic manager. I actually think the Board should go as well, otherwise their old mate Moyes will be installed & the dross will continue
Ian- would love to see Mr Bean doing a team talk 🙂
Hey Johnie ,
I actually forgot about Moyes , he is , of course , the obvious choice .
John Terry ,
Player -manager ?? hah , dont rule it out !
Prox this has to be the worst time to get a manager, good ones are taken and have just spent their clubs money. Big Sam is the best we can hope for, a progressive manager would have to work with dads army anyway until December. Oh and we are skint.
Prox please can we forget about Moyes?
Omg we have scored
2-1 did Bacuna come on?
fightback….this is where you turn it around boys !!!
Hey … there’s life after all!
Goal made by Baggy! 😉
Who the fuck would want to take over?
I would take Sherwood back. He’s full of himself but seems to get the most in the short run
So we scored. Tell me how this is the point where Villa turned their season around
Looks to me that Hourihane ‘s been doin’ a lot of work in the last 15 minutes, according to the BBC text.
benny from crossroads with miss diane as his assistant
should we start a sweepstakes on Bruces comments? I’m going for “we were unlucky if Green had scored in the ……..minute.”
Dream was nice while it lasted !
we drop gabby and hutton yet 2 of them still end up on pitch
2 0 down and put on hutton for the love of god bruce explain that,samba up front maybe
Isn’t it weird that when we have a go at teams we can score?
injuries taking its toll on our youth and we have such a small squad i usually need 40 players a year
Ian,
It doesn’t … but at least the last 15 minutes showed that (belatedly) Villa had some fight in ’em.
Whether that last 15 minutes will be a springboard to a good win on Saturday is a wild hope, though.
Dont be surprised if a large container of cool-aid appears at the next villa training session !
Joking aside , it was obvious from his interview on saturday that Bruce is a dead man walking . I dont know who would take the job , but i fear for us if we dont cut him loose soon.
It took 7 years to fall into the championship so I’m expecting at least 7 years to climb out. It’s fun to vent and toss poo but I really would like a good game and if a win happens well great.
They will get better but unfortunately teams are going to come in smelling blood and confidence now. All the games are going to be tough because teams are going to see an improvement in their statistics. You can dig a hole in just one game. The hole that’s been dug now is enormous.
I have had this feeling in my Bones all pre-season that he had sorted nothing going forward out and now the curse of the Jedi is dragging what looked like a decent defence down (against lower league players) we are 3 points off 7th as it stands but would need to win 8-0 to get there if results were favourable.
Hand on heart can anyone see it changing? I must admit I can’t.
Ian I would rather play the kids and go down than play like we do.
mark
they did play only problem it was night before
I’m with you mark. They would be competitive.
And they wouldn’t be wearing slippers during the match
o my god the interview after the match,someone put bruce out his misery yes he will walk away with years wage but it has to be done
Dear oh dear. I kept getting interrupted, but we were never in their half for more than a few seconds until after they went 2 up. We can’t even park the bus properly.
Read Gregg Evans report in the Bham Mail…copy/paste of most of last season.
Bruce said Reading retain a lot of possession. He forgot to mention why Villa cannot
Paul,
Bruce comes out saying, “Reading a very different team than Cardiff.” Fair enough. But we couldn’t cope with either. We can’t handle a fast, physical, counter-attacking team, can’t handle a possession-based team. What’s left?
We looked like training cones after the first 15 minutes.
john clark
did you not know that the coach broke down on way home from colchester and they didnt get home to mid of night laughable
This comment on another blog sums it up well: Paul Young For me, its nothing to do with how many games this season nor even results if I’m honest. What I wanted and needed to see this season FROM THE START was a clear sign that we were starting to build something. Evidence that the summer recess, the warm weather training, the team bonding, the re-assessment of tactics by the coaching team, the pre-season games had combined to move us forward on last season.
Last season we lacked any obvious shape, we lacked any obvious style to our play, we lacked any evident unity between players and we lacked any evident buy-in from the players towards the manager.
I have not seen one shred of evidence this season and pre-season that suggests anything has changed …… absolutely nothing at all.
I see players clearly not getting on with one another on the pitch and, apart from officially sanctioned and demanded statements on the OS, I see nothing to suggest they get on off the pitch either. I see nothing by way of fist clenching motivation on the pitch and I see no players applauding one another for attempting good passes ….. I see stares, I see head-shaking. I see players on the bench not even watching the game.
On top of that, I have heard rumblings from Bodymoor Heath that suggest there is significant unrest between players and between players and the manager/coaches.
We have pretty much stolen the best players from our rivals and yet, Kodia excepted, they have all strangely lost all semblance of form. The leaders have lost any leadership qualities, the runners are standing still, the goalscorers aren’t scoring. Is that just unlucky coincidence ? Of course it isn’t !
Bruce is a nice guy but he, aided by his coaching staff, has completely lost the support of the players and it is so blatantly obvious now that even Dr Xia must have sussed it out.
Can’t wait to see how Dr X responds to this, though I think he’ll wait for Saturday before making a definitive statement.
Might be best just to sack SB and Calderwood and take up Ian’s idea and let the team take care of itself for a while.
Another comment on “Fight like Lions” from a Reading based fan:
Just back home from the Mad stad, I’m a Reading based villa fan so I’ve always had an interest in Reading’s progress as well as villa. Watched the game today and must say we were outclassed by Reading! I don’t understand why we continue to play hoof ball to hogan or gabby when neither are ever gonna win a header! Can’t put 3 passes together!
Here’s a stat from today’s game that sums up the villa style of play……. Reading’s goalkeeper Vito Mannone had a better pass completion than any villa player! Let that sink in.
Bruce has had his time, the game has moved on and he isn’t able to change anything- we continually hoof the ball, now Reading always play the ball out from the back, never any long balls- we made Moore and mcshane look like beckenbeaur and baresi! Sometimes there style can be “boring” but I’d rather have a team passing and keeping the ball than doing what we do and pass to no one.
If jaap Stam can get a tune out of the Reading players then he could work wonders with us- Bruce out – Stam in!
For the masochists/Villans among us, post-match thoughts are up.